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Summary of ReCAPP Forum:
"Making Guys Part of the Solution to Teen Pregnancy Prevention"
October 2001

Our October 2001 forum on Male Involvement included more than 200 people from across the United States and from as far away as Australia and Vietnam. Thank you to everyone who participated and supplied valuable insights, examples, and resources. The two-day e-mail discussion focused on the following issues:


Starting a Male Involvement Program

A participant from Virginia asked: "What do you think would be the best way to introduce a fatherhood campaign to a smallish, rural, Christian, CONSERVATIVE community, where words/ideas like SEX are almost taboo ...?"

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores: "In communities where open and honest dialogue is not possible in schools or community centers, the responsibility falls on parents or adult caregivers to provide accurate information. Programs can attempt to build the capacity of adults to address these topics."

    "One program did this and then the parents asked the program to do the same with their children. The parents realized how complicated the discussion could get and preferred, now that they had the information, that someone else do the sex education. The parents decided that what they wanted to do was to express their expectations with the young people and reinforce their own personal family's values. Perhaps this is a middle ground that communities can embrace."

    He added that there is some good news. "I have not experienced much community resistance when it comes to male involvement programs. This may be due to the fact that education provided to young men is not held in the same light as [it is for] young women."

    "Finally," he said, "it is very challenging for a community to speak with one voice on any topic or issue. Teen sexual development, sex, and teen pregnancy prevention should not be any different - especially since many of us were not privy to an open dialogue on this topic, and we do not have a personal experience to model with the young people we are around."

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker mentioned the report issued by the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, Keeping the Faith: The Role of Religion and Faith Communities in Preventing Teen Pregnancy. He felt it might provide some insight into potentially working with or building faith-based approaches. This report can be found on-line at: http://www.teenpregnancy.org/today.htm

A participant mentioned the high price tag for many curricula and asked for suggestions on how to initiate a male involvement program when a project has only $10,000 in funding. Some possible ideas already being considered include: using the money to initiate a dialogue among the men who are already working with young men in the local communities; identifying the health and sexuality issues relevant to young men and coming up with strategies for addressing those issues; and conducting a community-wide forum to present the identified health needs and strategies.

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores: "There is much that can be done in creating a mind set that leads to male involvement when resources do not exist to create a specific male involvement program. Community-based agencies are almost always hiring new staff for different projects."

    "If you'd like to develop better services for guys in the community, perhaps identifying prospective staff that are willing and capable of working with males is a first step — even if the program is intended to reach both male and females. Having a male on staff can create organizational expertise to serve males which may lead to the development of male involvement services over time."

    He added that $10,000 can do a lot in some communities. "It can provide stipends to young men to receive training for positions within organizations that train and hire young people. It can pay for a portion of a person's FTE to dedicate a portion of their time reaching out to and serving males. And it can be seed money to conduct focus groups with young men to find out what they need, etc."

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker: "EngenderHealth, an international reproductive health organization, has a special program called 'Men as Partners' (MAP) that provides technical assistance to other organizations that are trying to constructively involve men in family planning and reproductive health. They have developed a special training to help organizations that are looking to implement men's reproductive health services."

    Becker also shared some suggestions for men's services that are low or no-cost, which are copyrighted by EngenderHealth and cannot be duplicated without their permission. Contact EngenderHealth for more information. Erin Kenny, from EngenderHealth, subsequently contributed information about the training and services they offer. Erin may be reached at: ekenny@EngenderHealth.org.

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Characteristics of Effective Male Involvement Programs

A participant from Boston wanted to learn more about the experiences of programs working with both males and females as well as programs working solely with boys and young men. She wanted to learn more about the differences in the programs and the unique needs of males in prevention efforts.

  • A health educator for Family Planning in Port Angeles, Washington suggested the best way to relate positively to males in a program is with a male educator. He also said that he thought being young (in his early 20s) helped him connect with youth in his groups.

  • Thomas Carver, Coordinator of the Teen Fatherhood Program in Ventura County California, uses a speakers' bureau as a preventative measure, and it is very effective. Young men are trained in public speaking and then speak to health education classes in local junior and senior high schools. "Their message is a powerful one, and we get great feedback from the students that they would not have listened as intently if the information had come from an adult."

  • Several participants followed up on the speakers' bureau idea by mentioning Toastmasters International, which has a youth leadership portion that is separate from the adult groups. "This is all volunteer," said one participant, "but it is part of their development (adults [in Toastmasters]) to start a youth group. Check them out on the web."

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Balancing Male and Female Services

Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri asked: "How do you respond to reproductive health folks who are concerned that money spent on men's services may place women's services and programs in jeopardy?"

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores: "The reality is that services are badly needed for BOTH women and men. But at some point in life most people will be in relationships where they will need to support one another and dialogue about the very serious topics of family planning or reproductive health just to name two."

    "For years, young and adult men have not been included in this dialogue. Consequently, there is an important need for men and young men to learn about these topics and discover the importance of seeking clinical services at an early age for their own sake."

    "When I think of young people navigating adolescence, in this environment, they have to be well conversant about sexual topics. The potential outcome of both young men and women being able to talk about these topics is that they will be able to communicate and respect each other's desires when a decision is considered to have or not have sex."

    "But young men AND young women need to be given information! The more people talk and share accurate information with young people about these topics, the better off they will be in making the decisions of their life."

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker agreed with Sánchez-Flores and added: "EngenderHealth has developed some 'talking points' for people to respond to the following question: 'If we have programs that focus on men right now, isn't there a danger that resources will be allocated to men's programs at the expense of women's programs?'" These 'talking points' can be found at: http://www.engenderhealth.org/ia/wwm/index.html and include the following:

    • The idea is to create programs that benefit both men and women, therefore eliminating the idea that there has to be competition between men's and women's services. Still, careful monitoring must be integrated into programs to make sure that an increase in attention to men's needs does not come at the expense of women's needs.

    • Careful attention must also be paid to ways in which women have suffered as a result of men not being included in reproductive health care. One classic example of this is the situation where a woman has to be treated repeatedly for the same sexually transmitted infection because her partner does not have access to, or will not seek, care.

    • While there are a few examples of profits from men's programs subsidizing services for women, more research is needed in order to understand true costs of service provision to both women and men.

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Examples of Male Involvement Programs

  • Rick Chafino of the El Paso Young Fathers Project (EPYFP) in El Paso, Texas provided information about the fatherhood program he manages. Through collaborative efforts, his program:

    • assists young fathers with returning to school to complete a GED or college degree;

    • helps fathers to improve work skills;

    • provides counseling for young fathers and their partners; and

    • offers training in early childhood intervention skills, parenting by nurturing skills, and overall male/father responsibility.

  • Carolyn Corkindale from Adelaide, South Australia contributed information about a program called 'First Time Fathers.' "[We are] working on ways to prevent unplanned teen pregnancy from the male perspective. We are focusing on developing multi-media materials that help young men understand the consequences to them, the young woman and the baby if they conceive a pregnancy. We are also interested to understand the decision-making processes a young man goes through in relation to all this. I have collected my 'content' from informal focus groups of young fathers and with teens in school."

  • Kim from Yakima, Washington mentioned 'Project CHANGE,' a teen pregnancy prevention project funded by the CDC. "My position as a neighborhood advocate is mainly coalition building. Many of the groups I meet with are looking for culturally sensitive male involvement programs that include help for teen fathers, adult men [who] do not know how to be 'fathers' and male youth."

  • Donna Harris mentioned that the teen pregnancy prevention program in Southeast Florida recently hired a male case manager. "Every teen who comes into our clinic for a pregnancy or STI test is offered the opportunity to talk to a case manager. Case managers offer education, help teens get contraception, make referrals, and provide ongoing support/follow-up. We also offer sexual health education to students in alternative school settings and will soon be offering classes for parents on how to talk to their teens about sensitive subjects. This is a relatively new program, and we have not had full staffing for most of it, but a similar model was used here several years ago with great success."

  • Jan Hayne provided information about the 'Dads Make a Difference' (DMAD) program. "DMAD is a collaborative, positive youth development, teen pregnancy prevention, paternity education program through the University of Minnesota Extension Service. DMAD trains high school teens teaching as a male/female pair to deliver a four-lesson curriculum to middle school-age youth. The curriculum helps these older teens discuss with younger youth the importance of fathers in families, the responsibilities of being a parent, risky behavior, and decision-making, in hopes the younger youth (and the teen teachers themselves) will then wait to become parents until they are ready financially and emotionally."

    "DMAD is primarily a school-based program, but is also used through some community agencies. DMAD is also being taught at juvenile correction sites. About 8-10% of the teen teachers involved are teen parents. Check out our web site at http://www.dads.umn.edu."

  • Refujio Rodriguez from the 'Los Compadres' Program in Santa Barbara, California explained how his program involves males throughout their development. "We now serve junior high schools and have leveraged money from the probation department to continue our work with young men. In addition, our program now serves adult men in our county jail and fathers from Head Start. We also provide services to low income housing developments in Spanish."

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Comments on Strategy

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores: "Our efforts should not overlook the many young men in our communities who are not fathers. Young men are seeking information about sex, sexual communication and their bodies in a manner that resonates with them. If we are seeking to reduce too early-unintended fatherhood and teen pregnancy, I feel that primary prevention should be on everyone's radar screen. Secondary pregnancy prevention, for those young men who have a child/children should also emphasize the positive emotional support that fathers can extend to their children."

  • Wayne Pawlowski, Director of Training for PPFA (Planned Parenthood Federation of America), offered the following general comments:

    • "I am concerned about how many programs have the purpose of TEACHING boys what their responsibility is. The implication is they don't know. While they may not know the laws of their state, I think most of them know what is expected if they are involved in an unintended pregnancy... Problem is many can't get a job at all/get a job that earns enough to make a meaningful contribution. Then we criticize them/box them out for not providing enough.

    • I keep hearing that there is not enough money to set up a meaningful, fully supported, on-going program... then we criticize the guys when they don't respond to what we do offer (less than meaningful and not on-going).

    • While I agree male staff are ideal for a male program, I would rather have female staff (who can role model communication, comfort, answer questions a guy can't, etc.) rather than have a male who does not model the behaviors/attitudes that I would want to project.

    • We have to honestly focus on and address the issues/needs/concerns of guys if we want them to use our programs, not offer some of what they need as bait to get them in so we can then 'educate' them about our agenda for them."

  • A participant who works with teens in a high school in Pasadena, California agreed with Pawlowski's comments. "Young males are leery of adults scolding them for their behavior, some of which are rights of passage. We, of course, do not wish to extend impregnating young girls as part of this ritual but we must approach them in a way that speaks to the issues that they are struggling with..."

  • Responding to Pawlowski's comments, Jan Hayne from DMAD said: "I believe 'some' boys need to better understand what their responsibility is when they become fathers because they don't know. For kids growing up without involved fathers, their male role models have been dads who leave, so why should they stick around? I don't think we can assume 'most' of them know. And while the emphasis on getting on a job and providing financial support is important, we also need to let guys know how important they are to their children in so many other ways besides money. There are plenty of other reasons for them to 'be there' for their kids."

Following up on previous comments, Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri asked: "One point that I have heard several times during this forum is the importance of providing young men with services they really need and want, not pushing 'our' agenda. What are some ways that all of you have assessed these needs?"

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker: "I have conducted some focus group research with young and adult men about how they feel about health related issues and how they might want reproductive health services catered to them. I have also seen others use 1:1 interviews with men and women and also with staff members and community leaders to find out more about perceptions of reproductive health and health services."

    "I think educators and youth-serving professionals can conduct focus groups and research, but I believe it is extremely helpful to have researchers and/or evaluators develop the research instruments and evaluate the data."

    "I think those wishing to conduct some research for their programs or services do not have to invest too much to do it. I see doing this research to help folks custom-tailor their programs, not so much to speak on behalf on men's needs in general."

  • Participant Jan Hayne said that their project assessed program needs through focus groups. More information is available on their web site under 'middle school curriculum' at: http://www.dads.umn.edu.

  • Participant Wayne Pawlowski: "I agree with Rob (Becker) that focus groups are a great tool for finding out what boys/men need/want. My only 'however' is that in my experience, boys, in particular, think they know what we want to hear and it often takes several go-rounds on an issue before you get to what they are really thinking vs. what they think they should say."

  • Participant Susan Foster-Zdon agreed that focus groups sometimes give us the answers "parroted" back to us at first. "I think questions for focus groups need to be designed to bring forth more real answers. One way that can be helpful is to ask their opinion about specific scenarios. This gets away from the generalized statements that they heard in health class."

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores: "Wayne (Pawlowski) touches on the point of behavior change or modification. Young men pick-up on this very quickly and shy away from people that do not understand their circumstances and struggles. I have listened to young men paint a very different picture of their reality than what was shared by service providers... While we are learning more about how clinical services can resonate with males, organizations can have an internal dialogue on whether they want to serve males in the first instance and not simply blame them for not wanting to come in for services that were designed to serve another group."

    "Some service providers that reach teen mothers want the males who 'caused' the pregnancy to be involved and supportive. Guess what? Most of these young men also want to be involved and supportive. Perhaps building the capacity of existing staff to better serve the specific need of young men and teen fathers would be a good start."

    "Finally, the beginning of male involvement is not the development of a program. It is making the paradigm shift that young men are a part of our communities and they, just like young women, need some services in order to maintain their health, make positive contributions to their community and achieve their personal goals. Ideally, this paradigm shift should occur at the individual, organizational, and community levels so that young men know that they are part of the solution, not simply the problem."

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker said that the last thing the young and adult men he worked with in Brooklyn, New York did was provide canned/parroted answers. In fact, they went in the opposition direction. He added that he thought the idea of providing scenarios (as previously mentioned by participants) was a good one.

  • A participant is starting a project that uses poetry (specifically poetry with beats and rhymes) to involve male youth. "The theme of the work will be about what it is like to be a young male and what fears, frustrations and joys that they are experiencing at this time in their lives."

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Recruiting Males

A participant from North Carolina asked for advice on recruiting participants into his teen fatherhood program.

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker suggested the following web sites for contacts regarding recruiting young fathers:

  • Alex Fisher from the Texas Department of Health mentioned a school-based program held a three-on-three basketball tournament that was very successful for recruiting teen males. The health department's web site at http://www.Texasmalescare.org includes a link to this program, which is called the East Austin Male Involvement Project. She added that Dr. Peggy Smith of Baylor Medical School has an article on recruitment that might be useful.

  • Chris Coleman-Plourde, project coordinator for the Texas program previously mentioned by Fisher, said they have been very successful with attracting young men and keeping them in the program. "For starters, being school-based and being a part of Communities In Schools (www.cisaustin.org ) has been a huge asset for us... We also offer job readiness, mentoring, support groups, health screenings, leadership development, peer ed, family involvement. In addition to those services, we have been able to tap into some funding for outdoor camping trips (which is a pretty amazing experience with teenage boys)."

    "Also, we've found that a great way to get young men connected to the project is to put them in charge and to give them more responsibilities. We have a leadership committee of 10 young men ... who work with the staff in overseeing the project and plan events."

    He added that the annual three-on-three basketball tourney has been an excellent means of recruiting. "Presently, we have a difficult time keeping up with all the referrals that we receive." The program's web site is located at: http://www.geocities.com/xy_zone.

  • A health educator from St. Paul, Minnesota said that their program recruited many young men into a peer educator program by advertising a 'job.' "We were able to pay the peer educators a stipend for their time. The teens were very proud of their jobs — much more so than if they had seen themselves as 'volunteers' — and it certainly helped their resumes. Even if you can't afford to pay the fathers, there are other ways of making their involvement seem professional and important, such as printing business cards for the educators."

  • Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores asserted that the best form of future recruitment is past performance. "The most successful programs that I have seen actually have too many referrals and young men that walk-in. The reason is that the education and collective team have developed services and links to badly needed services. For example, many male involvement projects link with job readiness and placement programs. As a result, when a young man is told that he has a child on the way, he is more likely to seek assistance in getting a job and less likely to seek services that will make him a better father. But he may visit an agency that can help him with both."

    "The converse is also true. If a program says it will do something for a young man and does not follow through, then word can spread that the program is not what it says it is. Rebuilding a reputation is just as hard for a program as it is for an individual."

    Sánchez-Flores added that programs should NOT try to do all things for all young men. Instead, developers should work with local area service providers in developing male friendly services in areas that are needed such as job readiness, school success, and clinical services.

  • Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri stressed the importance of fully understanding the communities we serve, especially their needs and concerns. "It also means finding ways to be flexible and creative to meet those needs while staying within the parameters of funding expectations and your organization's mission."

  • The participant from Australia said that, when they needed young men to share their stories for a CD ROM, they advertised through a male staff member at the local youth health center. In turn, the staff member used the opportunity to get to know the young men and promote an on-going young fathers' group. "It's still in its early days, but starting with a purposeful and interesting project helped I think."

  • Thomas Carver from Ventura, California said that he works with the staff of the local juvenile detention centers to identify dads, and then meets with them weekly. He also follows up with them after their release. Many times, he works with their parole officers and/or the judge to mandate participation in his program. "I act as a court advocate often," he said. "Actually, I am now becoming a CASA (Court Appointed Special Advocate) for my clients. This has given me more clout in the Juvenile Courts as a sworn officer of the court."

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Resources

Forum Moderator Robert Becker suggested the following web sites that "might be useful in terms of finding some educational multi-media materials for working with men:"

A counselor who works with incarcerated youth in a Pennsylvania state institution asked for ideas and resource materials on relationships, self-esteem, responsibility, and decision making, as well as more specific information on 'breaking the cycle of violence.'

  • A participant suggested the Wise Guys curriculum available through the Family Life Council, 336-333-6890.

  • Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri suggested a Latino-specific program titled Hombres Jovenes Con Palabra (Young Men with Word) by Jerry Tello who is the Director of the Los Angeles-based National Latino Fatherhood and Family Institute: 323-728-7770, ext. 18.

For information on male-appropriate curricula, Forum Moderator Robert Becker referred to the following pdf article: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/education/real/Selected.pdf

The coordinator for Boston Teen Challenge Fund Coalition, a city-wide teen pregnancy prevention/youth development effort, recommended a publication called Involving Males in Preventing Teen Pregnancy: A Guide for Program Planners which is distributed by the California Wellness Foundation and the Urban Institute. You can find out more by contacting The Urban Institute at 2100 M Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20037, (202) 857-8687, http://www.urban.org.

The publication covers information about several of the model curricula, strategies for recruiting and keeping young men involved, and ideas for dealing with the politics of targeting men (e.g., the issues of "taking" money away from girls programming and doing prevention work in conservative settings).

Forum Moderator Héctor Sánchez-Flores suggested resources that "may assist individuals or programs to develop services with young men in mind:"

  • Multicultural Counseling with Teenage Fathers: A Practical Guide
    Mark S. Kiselica [Sage Publications 1995]

  • Working with Latino Youth: Culture, Development & Context
    Joan D Koss-Chioino & Luis A. Vargas [Jossey-Bass 1999]

  • Angry Young Men: How Parents, Teachers, Counselors Can Help “Bad Boys” Become Good Men
    Aaron Kipnis, Ph.D. [Jossey-Bass 1999]

  • Family Violence and Men of Color: Healing the Wounded Male Spirit
    Ricardo Carrillo & Jerry Tello Editors [Springer 1998]

  • Not Just for Girls: Involving Boys and Men in Teen Pregnancy Prevention
    The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy

  • Turning the Corner on Father Absence in Black America
    Morehouse Research Institute & Institute for American Values [1999]

  • Readings on Men: Family Planning Perspectives 1987-1995
    The Alan Guttmacher Institute [1996]

Jan Hayne recommended Michael Obsatz's work on the seven traits of healthy masculinity. It can be found at: http://www1.umn.edu/aurora/seventraits.html

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Discussion of Terminology

Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri asked Wayne Pawlowski, Director of Training for PPFA (Planned Parenthood Federation of America), to talk about a presentation/workshop he delivered on 'male responsibility.' "Would you talk a little about who defines 'male responsibility' and 'male involvement' and how young men learn what these terms mean? What is a more strength-based/male affirming title to give programs such as the ones we are talking about on this forum?"

  • Participant Wayne Pawlowski: "There is no objective set of expectations for what constitutes appropriate 'involvement' and 'responsibility.' As a result, guys, who are supposed to KNOW everything, find themselves caught in a web of unclear and shifting expectations (many of which they can not meet anyway) ...

    Regarding better language: I have not identified more male-positive/affirming terms, but I am convinced 'involvement' and 'responsibility' are not good ones. I would be VERY interested in hearing others' thoughts on language."

  • Forum Moderator Robert Becker responded by offering the terms "male participation" and "men as partners." "I think language is important," he added, "but as Wayne and Hector suggest, it is really more about the framework and perspective organizations have when trying to consider how to work with males."

  • Another participant suggested the word "investment" instead of "involvement" or "responsibility."

  • Forum Moderator Lori Rolleri was not happy with the term "male involvement" because the word "males" sounds too clinical and the entire phrase implies that males are not already involved. She thought that perhaps a better term for young men's programs would be "boys' development."

    • Participant Refujio Rodriquez responded by saying: "I purposefully use 'male involvement' because our program serves males of all ages. In addition, if we assert that we are serving males, regardless of age, then we also should recognize that we must also be prepared to go beyond our scope of work and advocate for an increase in male services that are sensitive and appropriate."

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